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Friday's article had this as item 4:

"Shares of online publisher Travelzoo (TZOO:NYSE) closed above $100 for the first time Tuesday, and they traded even higher on Wednesday."

...

"Thus, Travelzoo -- a company that had net income of $4.4 million on $23.2 million in sales in the first nine months of the year -- is trading at about 250 times estimated 2004 earnings. It enjoys a market capitalization of $1.7 billion.

"How crazy is that? Well, for the $1.7 billion it would take to buy the Web site -- which lists cheap airfares and other travel bargains -- you could buy three actual airlines themselves.

"Yes, you'd have enough money to buy Continental (CAL:NYSE), Delta (DAL:NYSE) and Independence (FLYI:Nasdaq). Not only that, you'd have enough money left over -- at least $100 million -- to pay Bill Gates an hourly wage to make your own travel-bargain Web site from scratch.

"Frankly, doing that makes about as much sense as paying 250 times earnings for anything."

(Note from me: TZOO did close below $100 today, at $98.89, after a pullback on Thursday and Friday. The company's market cap is still about a billion and a half dollars.)

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Date: 2004-11-16 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dirque.livejournal.com
well the key phrase would be, "net income". which is something they wouldn't have if they owned an airline ;)

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Date: 2004-11-16 03:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
Hmm. I wonder how complex it would be for me to sell my three shares, and how much I'd lose to commission or fees.

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Date: 2004-11-16 06:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rfrancis
Yeah, I was wondering about those shares they gave away way back when they were starting (I have a few too, in theory.) I've always written them off as pointless and worthless.

-R

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Date: 2004-11-16 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-ness.livejournal.com
If you guys find out, let me know, because I have a couple myself.

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Date: 2004-11-16 09:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rfrancis
Well, okay. I went to Travelzoo's site and found their Investor Relations page, and had it sent me my account information by giving it the email address of record (I still get their newsletter, so it was easy to find out which address they had.) I logged on using that and discovered that I have 8 common shares in their account. Basically, if I want to do something with them, it appears I would go to the page to request a stock certificate, print the form, fill it out, send it to them, and they'd send me a physical stock certificate (instead of being "book-entry" which is what my shares are now) and I could send that to my broker to get it into my account there, then deal with it however I want, I guess. What does that mean the end result might be? Dunno. This is way out of my field. But that's what I gather so far.

-R

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Date: 2004-11-17 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] achinhibitor.livejournal.com
Well, for the $1.7 billion it would take to buy the Web site you could buy three actual airlines

Which, added together, would be worth precisely nothing...

Hey, they believed it with Akamai

Date: 2004-11-17 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madbodger.livejournal.com
A bunch of 'em accepted huge salaries and moved to Boston, even.


I was more skeptical, as always.

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Date: 2004-11-17 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-ness.livejournal.com
To be fair, he didn't choose any of the airlines which are actually in Chapter 11, like United and US Air, so that's not exactly true...

...but close. :)

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Date: 2004-12-29 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] achinhibitor.livejournal.com
Being a mathematician by training, I humbly submit to your correction.

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Date: 2004-12-29 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] achinhibitor.livejournal.com
Checking the stock prices today, it looks like CAL, DAL, and FLYI together are just about worth what TZOO is.

Checking the news, I see:

DAL lost $6G over the last three years.

CAL lost $374M over the last 9 months, and is cutting wages and benefits.

FLYI "may not survive 2005" and "a high-cost [unionized] carrier trying to operate as a discounter".

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