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From http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/11/the_hipsters_you_shall_always.php:

Somewhere in the past few years, I crossed the threshold at which I m now old enough to remember how it used to be. Which makes it very hilarious to hang around people who think that they just invented sex and drinking binges. I was recently amused to be informed by a 28-year-old friend that, unlike the fogies I went to college with, people in his generation, frequently have friendly flings with buddies they do not actually intend to date seriously. No, really? Tell me more. And is it true that the people of your tribe slice the bread before you make the sandwiches?

Hipsters have been around at least since I was in college, which, as any fogey can tell you, is when the universe began, anyway. To be sure, we did not have iPods, and without cell phones we had to engage in rather elaborate signalling mechanisms so that people would know what bar you were likely to be at on Saturday nights circa 11 pm. But the ironic cynicism, the clothing rumpled with exquisite care, the chain smoking, the obsessive competition over who could discover the obscurest band, all these we had. We even had the habituating of coffee shops, though I'm not sure one could then procure a triple chai latte with soy milk. We used to write in them, you see; we had this stuff called paper that was very useful for creating parodic autobiographies of Karl Marx penned in the style of John Irving.

(Just for context: according to a biography in AFF's Doublethink, Ms. McArdle graduated from Penn in 1994.)

Comments

living in a college town...

[sarabellum.livejournal.com]

thanks for posting!

this fogie notes how the tap-tapping of keys and incessant chattering on cellphones has taken over in coffeeshops.

[gravitrue.livejournal.com]

This reminds me of sra explaining to the UU teenagers group he was working with that when he was in that group as a teen, they had a rule that you were not allowed to have sex on the altar while a minister was in the building. Which I guess is a way of saying that current college students actually seem pretty tame compared to my generation, and my generation seemed pretty tame compared to the early 70s.

[nafe.livejournal.com]

I concur. Kids these days are pretty much prudes. Not me though, I'm a ho.

[r-ness.livejournal.com]

sra gave that example during an alumni pledge ed in the last year or two, as a leadup to the group shower hokey-pokey story.

[karakara98.livejournal.com]

I can't claim to comment intelligently on the Hipster phenomenon, but I find her prespective on age resonates well right now. Lately, I've acquired a boyfriend roughly a decage older than me and a direct report roughly a decade younger. Both of them have firmly put me in my place generationally, which is an interesting experience! At least showing up to parties with my boyfriend means dancing to some great 80's music...

[marmota.livejournal.com]

Naivete goes both ways, I think; I recently made the comment to someone significantly younger than I am, "Dorms must be much quieter now with laptops and ipods than they were when I had to deal with the noise of typewriters and boombox stereos". Not surprisingly, it took them a while to stop laughing.