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You can really engage more directly with a highway when there's no one else on it. So it is with I-84 between the Connecticut-New York border and the I-384 split east of Hartford.

I always knew it was a piece of work as freeways go, but driving on it at 3AM on a Sunday night really allowed me to concentrate on the parts of it which are bad because of design, not traffic. Usually, the thing has enough traffic on it that your attention is diverted from the inherent lousiness of the layout. This time there was hardly any other traffic on the road, so I got to interact with it without distractions.

Twisty curves, ups and downs, left-hand exits and entrances, lanes appearing and disappearing from both sides: really, this bit of I-84 has it all. Not so bad compared to many urban interstates, particularly within big cities like New York and Boston, but pretty impressive for one which can only claim to go through Hartford and Danbury.*

I think it really struck me because of the contrast with the highways I'd been driving on farther south. From North Carolina to New Jersey, as long as you're not actually driving on an urban freeway, you're by and large spared this kind of chaos.

It's actually kind of fun to drive on when no one's on it and you can just marvel at the complexity of the route. You'd never build an interstate like this today; it's really a relic of an earlier time. Many of its exits and entrances were built for a freeway system that was never completed.

I'm told truckers hate I-84, though they're pretty much forced to use it through Connecticut as the alternative is the usually-congested I-95 along the coast. I can see why. I can zip along in my crossover with the curves and hills simply providing a bit of spice. Not so for a fully-laden rig.

When it's full of traffic it just becomes another clogged interstate, where most of your attention is on all the other drivers. But when it's empty you can appreciate its particular challenges.

All this and road work, too!

ETA: *And Waterbury! How could I have forgotten...oh, never mind.

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Date: 2014-07-21 07:16 pm (UTC)
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I've always been appalled at that stretch of road. Could see it being fun at 3am, but for fun roads in CT give me the Merritt Parkway any day.

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Date: 2014-07-21 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-ness.livejournal.com
Oh sure, no argument. The Merritt/Wilbur Cross Parkways were built to be pleasant to drive. And they have a retro feel that I appreciate. I-84 is simply impressive in its bad design.

One problem with the Merritt, though: when it clogs, that's it. I've been stuck in a miles-long tailback on an entirely stopped southbound CT 15 in the middle of the night. They tend to like to schedule road-closing construction work after midnight, which is really the only time they can get away with it.

I really would have appreciated Waze if it existed when I still lived in Connecticut.

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Date: 2014-07-23 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] happyfunpaul.livejournal.com
Re: Merritt clogging and wishing for Waze...

About a month ago, we were driving from Boston to Morristown (north-central Jersey), just entering the Merritt/Cross parkways, when our Garmin GPS suddenly rerouted us drastically, to get back on to I-84 west. I then looked at Waze and saw why-- there was an accident backing up traffic. The GPS continued to reroute us further and further west due to additional accidents and traffic to our south (e.g. on the Taconic). Eventually we drove maybe 40 extra miles, all the way to the I-84/I-87 interchange near Newburgh before cutting south, but we ran into no traffic the entire way, so it did indeed save us time compared to any route that would've taken us near NYC.

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Date: 2014-07-21 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digitalemur.livejournal.com
I can attest that my family member who is a truck driver detests that stretch of road. And when you're hauling for FedEx to their depot by Bradley, coming from further southwest where he lives, you have to use it.
Edited Date: 2014-07-21 07:26 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2014-07-21 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-ness.livejournal.com
It's pretty bad. You can't even blame it on the mountains: I-26 through North Carolina and Tennessee goes through similar, rougher terrain and is easier to drive on for cars and trucks.

On the other hand, when the biggest towns you have to work around are Asheville and Johnson City, it makes things much easier than if you have to deal with Danbury, Waterbury, and Hartford.

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Date: 2014-07-21 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lillibet.livejournal.com
I've noticed before that there is no "safe lane" through Hartford, it's built so that you have to change lanes to avoid forced exits.

One of the scariest moments of my driving life was coming through Hartford in freezing rain between the wall and a flatbed loaded with 3 transformers.

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Date: 2014-07-22 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chris-warrior.livejournal.com
going to see Greg, going down to Hebron to the Ren Faire, cutting across to go to MA... hated it every time. sort of a relief to be almost exclusively on the Thruway and Pike and 495 and 95 now.

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Date: 2014-07-22 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agrimony.livejournal.com
Ah, the no exit zone between Southbury and Waterbury. :)

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Date: 2014-07-22 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agrimony.livejournal.com
I would often take the back roads between Southbury and Waterbury because you just never knew if the no exit zone would become a parking lot right over the next hill after passing the last exit. :)

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Date: 2014-07-23 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dianec42.livejournal.com
How could you forget Waterbury?! Try as one might...

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