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Well-meaning white people genuinely irritate me.

Yes, the country you live in is racist. How nice of you to notice. I have been living here all of my life. Where have you been?

Oh, that's right. In your white bubble you don't see race. Because we don't exist there in your nice, upper-middle class suburban life.

This isn't the only time race has been a problem in this country. It won't be the last. But I'm sure next time I'll hear the same shock and dismay from well-meaning white people who will, after a decent interval, go back to living their lives, not seeing race. That's what's happened every other time, and it won't be the last time, either.

Meanwhile, I'll go on living in the same place I've been living all my life.

Background: There was an acquaintance at the annual quasi-reunion I go to after Thanksgiving. I was talking with a group of friends when the subject of race and kids growing up came up. I started to mention how I was really glad I started school in New Jersey when he butted into the group I was talking with and cracked a joke about that, to which I said, "No, really, and I'll tell you why: The school I went to in New Jersey was mixed-race, and I basically never got crap about race when I was there. When I got to the all-white school system in Connecticut I spent from 3rd to 9th grade getting crap all the time. But what that New Jersey school taught me was that all the racists in my school in Connecticut were crazy, not me."

At that, he winced, turned away, and didn't talk to me for the rest of the party.

I have no doubt he was well-meaning. He tends to be, but he also tends not to deal well with unwelcome news, particularly that which tweaks his white straight male privilege. I imagine he feels like I was unfairly hostile or something.

One of the other people in the conversation then asked me what kinds of things happened to me at school. So I told her. She went to the same school I did when I was being harassed, but apparently managed not to see any of it when it was happening.

She didn't seem very happy she'd asked, either.

All that said, I did have a good conversation with one of my other classmates who I hadn't seen in ages. She'd come out (which I'd heard about from her brother some years ago) started a partnership with her then SO over a decade ago and adopted two Chinese daughters (one from Kunming, and one from a small town in Anhui province). The relationship had broken up a few years later, leaving her a single mother with two kids and a pediatrics practice.

Making the best of things she encouraged her daughters to learn about their country of origin, and took them on a trip to China organized by other Asian adoptees. We talked about China, learning Mandarin, and identity for Asian kids raised in white families. Her daughters were really encouraged to learn Mandarin by the trip, as they were unable to speak to people who had been in their lives before their adoption unless they had an interpreter.

One point she observed is that Asian children raised in a white family have one identity when everyone knows them as part of their family; they are treated in a particular way by people who know who they are and that they're part of a white family. Once they leave that context, however, they get treated like any other Asian person, and this can require adjustment.

This is obviously not an adjustment I have ever had to make, so it was intriguing to hear about.

That conversation also reminded me just how many friends I have who are either raising children of a different race or are children who are of a different race from the rest of their families.

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Date: 2014-12-04 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-ness.livejournal.com
The thing is, if you asked my classmates then or now whether there was racism at my school I would have predicted you would get a "Hell yeah" as a response. these particular middle- and high-schoolers were not subtle in a time already not known for its subtlety.

Truthfully I was a little wrong-footed by her question. I think the start of the conversation was when my classmate raising two adopted Chinese daughters said she had been glad to see me because she had wanted to ask me my thoughts about negotiating those issues at school. With that as the start of the conversation the question the other woman asked was a bit out of left field.

From what I've seen, becoming the white parent of non-white child gets you thrown in at the deep end of race and ethnicity in this country.

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Date: 2014-12-04 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] achinhibitor.livejournal.com
gets you thrown in at the deep end of race and ethnicity in this country.

I wouldn't be surprised, because not only is there the usual racial crap but also race treason against the solidarity of both the parents' and child's races.

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Date: 2014-12-04 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browngirl.livejournal.com
From what I've seen, becoming the white parent of non-white child gets you thrown in at the deep end of race and ethnicity in this country.

From what I've seen, too.

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Date: 2014-12-06 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodstones.livejournal.com
I'm still sick (insert rant about that here), and too out of it to write anything particularly thoughtful at the moment, but as you might imagine, I've been thinking about that deep end lately because I'm likely to end up in it soon. I would love to have this conversation in person at some point though.

ETA: Though it did just occur to me that we talked to three people who have adopted recently in MA and NH about their experience with the process, and the conversations were all by phone so I don't actually know the race/ethnicity of the parents but I have some not crazy reasons to assume they're white, and the odds that all three adopted a white child seem relatively slim, but race didn't come up once in any of the conversations, which is now striking me as very odd. Dear white people (self included), maybe we should start by being more comfortable talking about race?
Edited Date: 2014-12-06 02:30 am (UTC)

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Date: 2014-12-07 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-ness.livejournal.com
I would love to have this conversation in person at some point though.

Definitely. Let me know when you're feeling better.

(and feel better soon!)

which is now striking me as very odd.

Huh. I agree with you.

I have this feeling that if I were to adopt it *would* come up in conversation, more likely due to my race.

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Date: 2014-12-07 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digitalemur.livejournal.com
I'd love to hear more about this too (And feel better soon, Bloodstones!), because I wonder if those adoptive parents feel like they need to not bring up the family's racial makeup if it isn't specifically asked about because they expect other presumably white folks don't wanna talk about it, yeah. At the same time, they may or may not have groups of folks in which they know they can talk about it and feel comfortable.

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Date: 2014-12-08 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvalkyri.livejournal.com
Or they grew up during the time when it was supposed to be more enlightened to not notice/talk about race. I forget where Chris Rock's interview recently ran (starts with a v and one syllable but not Vox I don't think); he referenced the phenomenon of "they don't just say ''that black guy over there' but instead 'the guy with the red shoes.'"

For a little while, "I don't see race" was progressive; it is more recently that folks [well, those already sensitized to privilege or racial discussions] realize that it is white people who have the luxury of thinking race does not matter.

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Date: 2014-12-08 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvalkyri.livejournal.com
That said, since international adoption is so prevalent I would have thought someone would be curious.

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