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I dunno, I've started doing it myself. I can't figure out why it didn't occur to me sooner. The idea of walking around in an enclosed, climate-controlled space and avoiding the slush and snain of a Southern New England winter just makes sense.

It's particularly surprising to me because I'd done it before while travelling. Shopping malls are an excellent place to hide from inclement weather (heat in Southeast Asia, snow in Scandinavia) or dangerous levels of street crime (South Africa). Or in some countries, both (Brazil).

South African shops still have shorter hours on weekends, yet the malls are often quite full of window shoppers, even when the only businesses still trading are the movie theaters and the restaurants which as a result cluster near them. Security is fairly tight, and there are a lot of families taking advantage of the opportunity to take a walk around in air-conditioned safety.
For an American it's rather odd to see people walking around looking at the windows of closed shops, since in the States when the stores are closed they close the mall.

Speaking of security, Turkish malls were all provided with metal detectors and X-ray machines. I dutifully put my pack on the conveyor belt with everyone else's and walked through the arch, but it was pretty clear the detector was set with a high enough threshold so that everyone would pass, and the bored security guards often weren't even looking at the X-ray screen. This was obviously security theater, and everyone knew it, despite the fact that Turkey has had its share of shopping mall terrorism.

There were submachine-gun toting guards at the entrances to malls in Belo Horizonte and Brazilia, but they looked as bored as any rent-a-cops in the States, with more firepower. And the parking lots were thoughtfully provided with awnings over the spaces so your car's interior would stay somewhat shaded in the tropical sun. This was a feature some Thai shopping centers also offered. They looked lightly built but must clearly have been able to stand up to torrential downpours.

One feature of many malls in Asia that I really miss around here, however, is the transit station connected to the mall. I kept finding myself expecting a transit entrance either at the bottom or to one side of the mall. This clearly speaks to the primacy of mass transit in many Asian cities and the lack of social stigma attached to arriving at the mall by public transit. If there was transit to the mall I'd end up walking to transit, and then walking from transit, which would be a win all around.

Also, the food is better in most food courts in Asia than in food courts pretty much anywhere else in the world.

At some point I'll probably go on at some length in a post about how the tourist pursuit of exoticism drives them away from the mall and towards a historic bazaar or market, which then tends to turn into a tourist destination. This means that in many place the more authentic local experience will actually be found at the mall, which is where residents actually shop. But that'll go in another post, as this is getting long enough.

Another point is that I'd someday like to tour some malls around the world with someone who is more of a consumer than I am; I am that curious person who likes malls but generally doesn't buy much in them. As a result I believe there are many nuances of shopping which I believe I miss. I'd like to get some commentary on them, because so many of these aspects of life which look familiar in other countries actually differ in significant ways, and one can't get a good handle on them unless one has a greater understanding of how those aspects operate here.

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Date: 2011-01-05 03:52 am (UTC)
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Most suburban US malls give me the screaming heebie-jeebies. I go in if I have to, head directly to whatever my destination is, and leave as quickly as possible. I certainly wouldn't seek one out to walk in.

It's not just places like the Meadow Glen mall that bother me; the Burlington mall does too, as did the Glendale Galleria in its heyday. Even the various mall-like components of the Montreal underground have this effect. Oddly, the most notable exception is the Mall of America.

I hear you about tourism and the authentic experience. There are certainly plenty of places where a shopping district has become a tourist attraction, with varied results. The open-air Djemaa al-Fna seemed to have survived when I was last there, even though the adjacent covered souk mostly only catered to tourists. Closer to home, this is the complaint about Harvard Square (which is actually mostly doing OK, in my own opinion). Certainly, the extra traffic helps provide the economic conditions necessary to preserve the character of the place -- just having benevolent landowners, as much of Harvard Square does, is not enough.

Here's a thought for you as a tourist, though: I've had a great time seeking out the places that the locals go on vacation. This is what keeps bringing me back to Culebra. Such places tend to have terrific informal infrastructure that makes it easy to be there, and yet authentic at the same time.

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Date: 2011-01-05 06:26 am (UTC)
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Most suburban US malls give me the screaming heebie-jeebies. I go in if I have to, head directly to whatever my destination is, and leave as quickly as possible. I certainly wouldn't seek one out to walk in.

I hear you, and I understand the critiques of the places; nonetheless, I find visiting them when I have no intention to buy anything more engaging than when I actually have to buy something. The irony is that I don't find them particularly useful places to purchases.

The open-air Djemaa al-Fna seemed to have survived when I was last there, even though the adjacent covered souk mostly only catered to tourists.

Yeah, I found that in Syria it varied. The central market in Damascus pretty clearly was a tourist attraction, though there were still parts that functioned as a local market. In Aleppo, however, though there were clearly tourist-oriented vendors there were still a lot of shops for daily necessities.

I've had a great time seeking out the places that the locals go on vacation.

It is the greatest fun going with locals on their vacations. Not only do you get to see these neat places with, as you say, terrific infrastructure, but you get to see why they think it's fun.

I think a lot of what I do on trips is to try to get an idea of what it's like to live somewhere, and obviously one good way to do this is by sharing time with people who live there.

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