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I dunno, I've started doing it myself. I can't figure out why it didn't occur to me sooner. The idea of walking around in an enclosed, climate-controlled space and avoiding the slush and snain of a Southern New England winter just makes sense.

It's particularly surprising to me because I'd done it before while travelling. Shopping malls are an excellent place to hide from inclement weather (heat in Southeast Asia, snow in Scandinavia) or dangerous levels of street crime (South Africa). Or in some countries, both (Brazil).

South African shops still have shorter hours on weekends, yet the malls are often quite full of window shoppers, even when the only businesses still trading are the movie theaters and the restaurants which as a result cluster near them. Security is fairly tight, and there are a lot of families taking advantage of the opportunity to take a walk around in air-conditioned safety.
For an American it's rather odd to see people walking around looking at the windows of closed shops, since in the States when the stores are closed they close the mall.

Speaking of security, Turkish malls were all provided with metal detectors and X-ray machines. I dutifully put my pack on the conveyor belt with everyone else's and walked through the arch, but it was pretty clear the detector was set with a high enough threshold so that everyone would pass, and the bored security guards often weren't even looking at the X-ray screen. This was obviously security theater, and everyone knew it, despite the fact that Turkey has had its share of shopping mall terrorism.

There were submachine-gun toting guards at the entrances to malls in Belo Horizonte and Brazilia, but they looked as bored as any rent-a-cops in the States, with more firepower. And the parking lots were thoughtfully provided with awnings over the spaces so your car's interior would stay somewhat shaded in the tropical sun. This was a feature some Thai shopping centers also offered. They looked lightly built but must clearly have been able to stand up to torrential downpours.

One feature of many malls in Asia that I really miss around here, however, is the transit station connected to the mall. I kept finding myself expecting a transit entrance either at the bottom or to one side of the mall. This clearly speaks to the primacy of mass transit in many Asian cities and the lack of social stigma attached to arriving at the mall by public transit. If there was transit to the mall I'd end up walking to transit, and then walking from transit, which would be a win all around.

Also, the food is better in most food courts in Asia than in food courts pretty much anywhere else in the world.

At some point I'll probably go on at some length in a post about how the tourist pursuit of exoticism drives them away from the mall and towards a historic bazaar or market, which then tends to turn into a tourist destination. This means that in many place the more authentic local experience will actually be found at the mall, which is where residents actually shop. But that'll go in another post, as this is getting long enough.

Another point is that I'd someday like to tour some malls around the world with someone who is more of a consumer than I am; I am that curious person who likes malls but generally doesn't buy much in them. As a result I believe there are many nuances of shopping which I believe I miss. I'd like to get some commentary on them, because so many of these aspects of life which look familiar in other countries actually differ in significant ways, and one can't get a good handle on them unless one has a greater understanding of how those aspects operate here.

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Date: 2011-01-05 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orewashinanai.livejournal.com
I think Manhattan mall is connected to the NY subway in the basement.

As for traveling with a shopper, I hate to say it but maybe you'd like traveling with my mom--it's about all she likes to do, go places, check out their malls, and go shopping.

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Date: 2011-01-05 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-ness.livejournal.com
Your mom sounds like a number of my relatives. :)

Is she into social analysis? I think the kind of shopper I'd like to travel with is someone who is conscious of the social construct he/she is interacting with, and has a deep understanding of the particular details of consumerism in America so they can contrast it with what they're seeing elsewhere.

I lack the deep understanding but I love the social analysis, and I think someone who has a better grasp of the details would great to travel with.

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Date: 2011-01-05 07:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orewashinanai.livejournal.com
Mm sadly not so much--I think you'd be pretty bored by her conversarion!

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Date: 2011-01-05 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-ness.livejournal.com
So, I thought that's what you might have been thinking initially but I figured I'd ask in order to clarify my point. And you never know; our crowd has more than its share of parents who are professors in the social sciences.

The distinction I was probably unclear in originally expressing was that it would be fun to have someone with me who was able to explain to me, for example, exactly what it meant to be buying and/or carrying some consumer item (a particular smartphone, for example, or a particular handbag) and place it in whatever context they're familiar with at home, and then make some hypotheses about what that meant elsewhere.

One geeky example is that the social significance of carrying an iPhone is different from that of carrying one of a number of Android phones, and which generation iPhone, etc.

I do know some people I talk with about this sort of thing but I've never traveled with them. I guess the distinction is better expressed as that between going to malls to acquire objects and going there to acquire insights into the people who go to acquire objects.

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Date: 2011-01-05 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karakara98.livejournal.com
I don't know if I qualify as an experienced shopper, but I think doing that kind of analysis while shopping would be a lot of fun!

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Date: 2011-05-18 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-ness.livejournal.com
I'd be glad to do with you sometime!

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