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Me: "Why is it that there are all these guy songs saying 'I'm sorry I'm such a jerk' and all these girl songs saying 'My boyfriend's a jerk, and I'm leaving" or "...but I still love him" or both?

bedfull_o_books: "That's just the way life is, man."

Comments

[jtdiii.livejournal.com]

It is all due to the mind control and the long training.

[awfief.livejournal.com]

That's because women are taught (subliminally or on purpose) that their job is to be next to a man. Maybe that's changing these days. . . women have confidence issues.

Away from the point, that's one of the reasons I like songs from guys that are like, "I'll help you get over the shit you've been through" like John Mayer's Daughters (which my housemate thinks is more like "...so I can get in your pants" but I'm not buying it).

[restruction.livejournal.com]

Sorry, but I'm with your housemate on this one.

[awfief.livejournal.com]

Have you listened to the lyrics? What makes you think he's all about sex in that song?

[restruction.livejournal.com]

Oh. Nothing in the lyrics. Just knowing what I know about John Mayer (from people that went to high school with him in Fairfield CT, from my general impression of him, etc.).

So I guess I'm cheating by taking outside info. If you take the song and ignore everything else, I'm with you.

[awfief.livejournal.com]

True. Besides, he's a long way from high school at this point (he's 23? 24?). People do grow and change. . . And yes, coming from the guy who wrote "Your Body is a Wonderland" I'm sure he gets more than his share. But the song, as a standalone, is very sensitive and very caring about a woman, acknowledging that most women get screwed up by the men in their life -- fathers, and boyfriends.

[restruction.livejournal.com]

So this comment is going to sound weird now, but I realized in my replies to you I slipped unconsciously into elitist music jerk mode, and when you first replied back again I was embarrassed that you caught me out, even though you probably didn't realize it. So anyway, I've given the song a fair listen, and it is a pretty sweet song. So thanks for making me stop for a sec. Even if it wasn't your intent.

I don't know if any of that makes sense.

[awfief.livejournal.com]

it totally does. And thank you -- I've been doing a whole bunch of listening and talking, and have had that same kind of epiphany, so thank you for being able to say "hey, I was doing this, and I'm sorry." Because it takes much more work to do that than to just let the comment go and slink off embarrassed, with me never knowing. *hugs*

[marith.livejournal.com]

To be fair, there's also a lot of "this girl makes my life hell, but I worship the ground she walks on anyway" songs.

And a few "you're a jerk, and I'm finally LEAVING" songs for both genders. :)