I'm ever mindful that I'm engaged in a conversation with the people who have decided to put me on their default view. I think I have, over time, decided that I need to follow the rules of polite society when posting.
I have nonetheless angered a number of people who have flounced out of my journal and my life. This is sad, but unavoidable. I am gradually embracing the fact that I piss some people off. (I am sometimes more glib, and say "I'm embracing my inner asshole" but that phrase has some awkward anatomical implications.)
On the other hand, I'm also trying to avoid one of the counter-fallacies redhound describes in passing in his oft-quoted Five Geek Social Fallacies, that of "Your Feelings, Your Problem":
As I don't care much for compartmentalizing my journal--and by implication, my life--by proliferating filtered groups, I think carefully about what I say, because it's going out to everyone on my flist, at least.
It's a balance. Sometimes, like now, I feel it somewhat constraining.
I post a lot about finance. Partly it's because I find it fascinating; it's the actions of a huge number of crazy primates chasing after abstractions. They're not very good at it, so their antics can be comical, as long as you're not within range of their flung feces.
But partly I realize that by posting about finance I can post about a subject sufficiently obscure that I can be snarky and yet not piss my friendslist off. I admit this is in no small part a reflection of the interests of my friendslist. Other readers, maybe I'd post more about politics. Or sex. I don't know.
I originally chose food for similar reasons.
I recognize that both finance and food can be triggering subjects for people; some of my friends have said as much. I'm sorry about that. I think they're less triggering than politics or sex, or relationships. I guess I could stick to transit and travel.
I suppose, thinking about it, that the subjects I currently write about I'm more likely to bore readers than anger them. And that's been okay, if limiting. I'm told this is a terrible way to approach writing; it's probably true, but the reverse comes hard.
Anyway, that's my navel-gazing for the moment.
I have nonetheless angered a number of people who have flounced out of my journal and my life. This is sad, but unavoidable. I am gradually embracing the fact that I piss some people off. (I am sometimes more glib, and say "I'm embracing my inner asshole" but that phrase has some awkward anatomical implications.)
On the other hand, I'm also trying to avoid one of the counter-fallacies redhound describes in passing in his oft-quoted Five Geek Social Fallacies, that of "Your Feelings, Your Problem":
Less commonly, people form a sort of counter-fallacy which I call "Your Feelings, Your Problem". YFYP carriers deal with other people's fallacies by ignoring them entirely, in the process acquiring a reputation for being charmingly tactless. Carriers tend to receive a sort of exemption from the usual standards: "that's just Dana", and so on. YFYP has its own problems, but if you would rather be an asshole than angstful, it may be the way to go. It's also remarkably easy to pull off in a GSF1-rich environment.So there are things I consider saying that I find myself filtering out in my head, partly because I've decided that while I like tweaking people's assumptions I'd also like to continue having them read me.
As I don't care much for compartmentalizing my journal--and by implication, my life--by proliferating filtered groups, I think carefully about what I say, because it's going out to everyone on my flist, at least.
It's a balance. Sometimes, like now, I feel it somewhat constraining.
I post a lot about finance. Partly it's because I find it fascinating; it's the actions of a huge number of crazy primates chasing after abstractions. They're not very good at it, so their antics can be comical, as long as you're not within range of their flung feces.
But partly I realize that by posting about finance I can post about a subject sufficiently obscure that I can be snarky and yet not piss my friendslist off. I admit this is in no small part a reflection of the interests of my friendslist. Other readers, maybe I'd post more about politics. Or sex. I don't know.
I originally chose food for similar reasons.
I recognize that both finance and food can be triggering subjects for people; some of my friends have said as much. I'm sorry about that. I think they're less triggering than politics or sex, or relationships. I guess I could stick to transit and travel.
I suppose, thinking about it, that the subjects I currently write about I'm more likely to bore readers than anger them. And that's been okay, if limiting. I'm told this is a terrible way to approach writing; it's probably true, but the reverse comes hard.
Anyway, that's my navel-gazing for the moment.
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Date: 2010-01-20 06:10 am (UTC)For me, while I think LJ is awesome in terms of its communication potential, having a "conversation" with a large group of people whose faces I can't see is sufficiently intimidating that I filter, lock, and post rarely and on "safe" topics. But it's a little frustrating- I'd like to have more of a real conversation.
It's your own space. Maybe trigger warnings are the way to go?
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Date: 2010-01-20 07:18 am (UTC)i don't gotta agree with you. i don't feel entitled to choose your topics. i'm just interested.
ok?
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Date: 2010-01-20 12:01 pm (UTC)However, I really like reading posts by people who are more willing to post controversial, thought provoking things, even when I don't agree with them.
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Date: 2010-01-20 12:45 pm (UTC)If someone finds large parts of my journal problematic or triggering, that's about them, I think. If a lot of people had that reaction, I might reconsider what I was posting, or how, or at least use more of those cut tags.
I can get stressed about money, but the finance stuff you post isn't hitting any of that, and wasn't even a couple of years ago when I was finding the topic more stressful.
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Date: 2010-01-20 03:08 pm (UTC)I actually think it's cool that I have in you an economist-type friend who knows about those sorts of thing. As I recall, one of the things that first intrigued me about you when we met was the fact that you collected currency. I don't know much about finance, and I find accounting tedious, but I know exactly where to go to get a summation of the issues and a smart friend's opinions on the topics.
So... So unless I've been missing something here, and that's entirely possible, I'm not sure where your concerns about this are coming from. I'd prefer you to keep writing about the stuff you think about, without a lot of self-censoring, because it's interesting, and I like knowing what's on your mind.
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Date: 2010-01-20 08:09 pm (UTC)Should it be of interest: you're actually part of my default view, though not in my default_view filter. (I sort my read filters by post volume.)
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Date: 2010-01-20 09:08 pm (UTC)Re: From someone who blogs a lot of music
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Date: 2010-01-20 10:08 pm (UTC)I read your entries and enjoy them; I even skim the financial ones. I am firmly in the same corner as many other replies here in that I'm completely mystified that there's been anything offensive in your journal. Terribly curious, too, as to what would get someone to go off in a huff.
Anyway, I don't get to talk to you nearly often enough and I miss you!
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Date: 2010-01-20 11:41 pm (UTC)but, my personal filters are different enough that I inevitably betray apparent confidences of others, or, much worse, known confidences by finding myself participating in a conversation already in progress where my comment turns out to be the first confirmation of some detail that I'd been led to believe had already been well-discussed.
(And then I get go away and feel like shit, have that person firmly remind me, repeatedly, that I AM shit, and come perilously close to the "well, fuck you then, I can't do anything right except get the hell out of your life" defense mechanism, which leaves me free to really wreak havoc.)
so, now I'm trying to learn how to avoid any communication or conversation altogether...
yeah, that's working. [insert wincing emoticon here... stoopid eljay]
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Date: 2010-01-21 03:26 am (UTC)My general thought is that YFYP is contextual. It's appropriate to take care with spoilers for a week or so after a movie; it's ridiculous to spend any effort concealing that Christ dies at the end of each Gospel, or any of the plot of Star Wars.
I've seen some people handle this with a collection of filters; you could probably get away with just one: "interesting". :)
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Date: 2010-01-21 03:42 am (UTC)Please continue to be awesome! :D
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Date: 2010-01-21 07:02 am (UTC)Also I find the idea that anyone would flounce off from your journal quite bemusing.
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Date: 2010-01-22 08:04 am (UTC)